by: Tani Jantsang
About the Hoolah Made about One Title, the Last one of Three, that I happen to be handed by - nobody much.
To: A few people who asked about it, or who have the time sequence backwards.
I just thought of something. Heh, anyone who makes a hoolah out of the COS shit (the stupid but very high title they handed me and Phil as NON-members of their org) let them know this - because it's the truth, and no one makes a hoolah out of the TWO OTHER high titles I got handed prior to the COS one because those other orgs are not prone to decade long organizational wars. (oh, gee, the online morons, their allies and their other purveyors of bullshit didn't know I had those OTHER titles? Gee, too bad)
OK - 1989, First off, I was personally asked to give NON Dark Doctrine info on the USA's founders, specific things, and on Pythagoras and Plato, to a man named Peter Gilmore, phone number and contact info given to me to contact him; obviously by someone he had to have KNOWN, (I theorize that) possibly under another name (he DID have a Masonic friend he hung with at the time, and told me this, maybe it was him?). I knew the guy as Nick Rotella (he said he was a Mason and knew enough to be believable) but Gilmore said he did not know him. I was asked to give it to Gilmore, not to anyone else - I'm NOT implying here that it was secret or anything, but JUST that Nick asked me specifically to give it to Gilmore and he SAID Gilmore would publish it! My question NOW is, under what name did Gilmore know Nick? I'm not all that seriously curious since it's One Big Whatever. Gilmore, at the time, was starting up a magazine for the COS, which was a PUBLIC satanic organization. On hindsight, just seriously considered this, they HAD to have known each other; hell, in 1993?, after Andy died, right after that (Andy died around Yule, in 1992, I can't remember if it was still 1992 or 1993, but it was after Andy died, Nick called me and said that Gilmore would take over the COS, too - NO SHIT! - so what other name is Nick known under? Anton himself maybe? Sheesh, I just wondered about that! Who the fuck ELSE could KNOW that this would happen, or what Gilmore WOULD do??.) Nick lied about Diane Page and Anton. Diane Page never met Anton or knew him. He never played the organ for her. Yet there she is, IN that movie about LaVey. He never actually says he's playing, but one assumes it seeing her dancing. BOY, if that was Anton himself claiming to be Nick, that would seriously be a JOKE ON ME. I never had contact info for NICK. He'd call me. Never the other way around. Huh... He claimed to have no computer. I think that Diane Vera posted stuff he said, don't remember, but HE DID say it. It was posted legit.) Anyway, that was off topic. Someone on the bcc might actually KNOW who Nick is. (How COULD he know that Gilmore WOULD publish it. How COULD he know that Gilmore would succeed LaVey taking over the COS?) Gilmore did more than just retype and publish it. He RENAMED it as the ROOTS OF SATANISM. He was a nobody in the COS at the time. Since they admit the COS is a dictatorship, there is only ONE person would could possibly have allowed the renaming of our stuff as ROOTS of Satanism. They can quibble about that all they like, now. I could care less. It's not the ROOTS. It's only the Western Roots.
Anyway, it, NONE of it matters anymore to me (it matters a lot to them). I do not REGRET using any of these orgs to get the Dark Doctrines out there, and I used every single PUBLIC org out there; they were only too happy to print it - after all, it was GREAT STUFF, not the usual stupid satan shit. The COS and it's lapdogs obviously have a LOT of regrets about letting someone THEY KNEW was hostile to them, get handed a big high title. None of the other orgs regret anything. Point is, I do not NEED any other org to "get OUR STUFF out there."
There wasn't any such thing as big internet or websites before. A person had to have an already-established reader base for me to GET our stuff out to them. Instead of making my own copies and handing it to 1000's of people and/or going through the monumental FUSS and CHORE of doing what needs to be done to publish a magazine and find a reader-base, I could let THEM do it FOR me. Very simple and convenient. They loved our stuff and printed every single SCRAP we ever handed them - and the COS org actually RETYPED it all for their Macintosh computer format, which was a lot of work. Heh, none of the other orgs did that, they just published it.
Our stuff was out there long before the Nick/Gilmore or satanic org business, dark stuff, albeit not in a satanic format, but more in a mythos format, sort of. It wasn't advertised and, as we all know, lots of dark stuff was written INTO mythos stories. Well, anyway, that information Nick asked us to give Gilmore had to be written, footnoted, and Gilmore did not read Attic Greek so, English-only sources had to be used. It's almost funny now to see the latest generation of COS lackeys STILL blathering about the difference between Lucifer and Satan and going on about Plato and Socrates. Ahem, we already EXPLAINED all that and it was published by the same stupid COS whose latest band of lackeys know nothing of. That fact "asked to give it to GILMORE" got glommed later on by sloppiness so it sounded like, "asked to give it to the COS" because that IS what I effectively defacto DID. Giving it to Gilmore WAS giving it to the COS. But I was specifically GIVEN Gilmore's number and contact info. Not a word was said about "COS." I knew he joined the COS after talking to him, but that's about it, it's all I knew except that he had HIS OWN magazine. Despite Nick's request, I *didn't* give him the information, but I wrote something on Mephistopheles instead, regarding Faust (after talking to him and learning that his magazine was NOT eastern, as I thought due to the name of it, it was "satanic" and he was a COS member). I gave him information on the cult of Attis too. Phil and Wayne gave him the info Nick asked me to give, or they wrote it; I mailed it (put a stamp on it). Gilmore was, at the time, NOBODY in the COS, just a guy with a magazine was all he was. He (which I doubt) or LaVey renamed our two historical articles "ROOTS of Satanism 1 and 2." I doubt Gilmore did that since he had no authority to call something ROOTS of Satanism, at that time. Those were NOT the original titles on what we wrote! "Was Plato a Satanist" and "Tenders of the Flame" were the titles Phil and Wayne put there. So, you figure that out. The COS or LaVey DID this, changed the titles to "ROOTS of Satanism", it's published in their own official mouthpiece for proof of it and they can squirm out of that or they can try their best but THEY published it as *ROOTS* of Satanism parts 1 and 2 in their own official magazine. Trident published part B of Roots 2 "Christian Racism" which is more about the guild connection to the USA and their LACK of racism. Other COS related magazine also republished these. Those are provable facts. DEEDS.
Now: At the time, Gilmore said that TBF was NOT a mouthpiece for the COS; I asked him in early 1990 because someone in the TOS (Bob I think, or someone else) told me it was their mouthpiece, as if I'd be concerned (and I was, I did not LIKE the COS or LaVey's club or his and their debut of grouching). Gilmore denied it, therefore he LIED to me. It WAS *THE ONLY mouthpiece* for the COS. When he finally admitted it, he thought he pulled one over on me and thought it was clever. At this stage, I considered Gilmore "The Liar." That simple. He pulled one over on himself at this point. That simple and that quiet, I was not obliged to tell him that I now considered him "shit". He already knew I regarded the entire LaVey thing as a bunch of clubbies worshiping a fake royal family.
As a while passed, maybe a year, Gilmore sent me this bilge against Aquino and the TOS and asked US to read "Te Velda's book" (Seth, God of Confusion) since he couldn't understand it, claiming that Aquino used this as his main text. He RELIED on us to read it - we could have told him a pack of lies about the book since he'd have no way of knowing, HA HA. OH, he never thought of that! We did NOT do that. But what we actually gave him, heh, had nothing to do with Egypt, either. :) He didn't know that either. He said enough bad shit and in such a professional way (plus he had a degree from a university and well, I was biased due to that), that we thought Aquino stalked Anton, molested his daughters, tried to have sex with Anton, conducted a hate campaign against the COS since 1975 and so forth with details, got thrown out of the army, molested a kid (they'd say that off the record!) molested HIS OWN kids who no longer speak to him, and other petty shit like, he had a 666 tattoo on his neck, waxed his eyebrows, thinks the Omen is about him, wants to be Mr. Spock, has sex rituals and nothing but that in his org or conclaves. They said his wife had a kidney disease, lupus, and Gilmore PERSONALLY called her Lupus Lil - this I'd swear to with lie detector! they said SHE had kids that no longer speak to her because she abandoned them. I may have forgotten a few of the negatives. That was the COS's line against Aquino. For their line against the TOS, they'd provide specific snippets of material that made the TOS sound like fundamentalist Christians of some kind. It was VERY convincing for one damned good reason: NO ONE in the ToS ever came forth to refute them! Perhaps they did, but none of us ever saw it and the one ToS member we knew never commented on any of it except to say "Well, the CoS is biased against us." !! That's not a refutation! I don't think they realize the enormity of this "evidence" and campaign. The CoS members were able, at the time, to completely poo poo Aquino's long book on the pre-1975 CoS. They had copies and they could select and copy specific parts of it to show others. They could do this simply because NO ONE ELSE COULD READ IT and SEE FOR THEMSELVES! This is no longer the case! They were attacking the ToS and the ToS was either not attacking back or not even defending itself. Point being, this could easily be refuted if it was not true - IF ONLY SOMEONE DID refute it. No one did! The CoSsers, all high ups in the COS, would say it in a very very professional manner as if there is no malice in their words, as if they are SHOCKED by it all. Truth to tell, people in the COS can write VERY CONVINCINGLY, using pieces of WRITTEN proof, to vilify a person, no one thinks that they may be showing them a FRAUD. They did not write it as I wrote, from the heart as if I'm talking. They did not write, for instance, the way Comrade Walter writes, which is very abstract and over most heads. Oh, they wrote it very professionally, the way a police report would write it but with details. And many of their high ups did this. Write and ask the TOS about any of it? Wayne did write to some address in Louisville I think. He got mailed an application to join the TOS. AAAAH!! From our point of view, TOS was not refuting it and well, how COULD people say such things if they were NOT true, and not be sued for it? (Apparently, it's not quite as simple as that, legally!) Even some ToS people lately have wondered why Michael Aquino doesn't just slap a serious law suit on the COS's asses for the stuff they pulled and still pull, the extreme being LaVey HIMSELF lying to the CID and trying to frame Aquino and his wife for a serious crime they never did - which COULD have resulted in life imprisonment of two innocent people. No need to ask why LaVey did this: he was COWARDLY SHIT; that is why he did it, since Aquino never DID anything to LaVey except see through him and WALK OUT. WHY didn't Aquino sue? Why doesn't the WORLD of occult groups know this happened? Hey, in order to stop that kind of vile evil (and that IS evil!), GOOD MEN have to ACT!
Well, I got online. They never imagined I would get online? I ran into trusted Masonic Brother James Foster who was also a TOS member at that time, and a person who "spoke my language" since he was also trained by legit Lamas in Vajrayana. He was able to talk DARK DOCTRINES to me - not in Egyptian lingo, but in lingo I was 100% familiar with. He showed me REAL ToS documents and I got to see for myself. I turned around 180 degrees in my opinion due to what I read, clearly read, for myself. The CoS not only lied about them regarding their doctrines, but they acted in cahoots with each other to pull off a MONUMENTAL lie against the ToS along personal and slanderous lines, when the ToS wasn't even their "rival." I don't like being conned and it's the ONLY TIME anyone ever pulled that off. Heh. Well, was it a con? There was no money lost, in fact, NOTHING was lost; a lot was GAINED in fact (at their expense? yes, at their expense). They (CoS persuasives) also pulled that lie off with the kid (at the time a kid in a street gang), Brendan and his friends, in 1995 or so, who went to online war against certain Setians (in my name, no less - basically silly name calling bullshit - B has apologized to A since then). That's but ONE of the reasons I did the other things I did since being online! ooo boy. Anyone with an IQ of 80 watching the show would figure it out.
I can IMAGINE the reams of bullshit the COS may have disseminated at the time, in the past, saying that I "gave them" the doctrines or something, or that I was very friendly to LaVey or something like that. Nothing could be FURTHER from the truth! Richard Quick is at least one person that would be able to definitely attest to that IF he saved anything. My criticism of the COS was 100% on doctrinal grounds at this time, and on the STUPID SHIT that they kept disseminating. Andre Soly even wrote them a letter complaining about the Thanatos garbage they kept purveying, making satanism AS UGLY and HATEFUL and GLOOMY as the kind of Christianity most satanists are trying to get away from. This was back before 1992. Soly went from wanting to be a COS spokesperson to wanting to rip up his COS card and trashing them all, including LaVey - AFTER reading our stuff. For a birthday party, Andre Soly set up a "pin the tail on the Anton" and placed Anton's face on a donkey's ass. This is recorded on FILM and we still have it (super 8mm). THAT was the profound effect of our stuff (the dark doctrine stuff that I had at the time, COS had none of it at the time) on anyone that FELT the darkness and the flame and ended up in CoS and then, after that, saw our stuff. They washed their hands of the COS. 100% of the time this happened. This may have happened with Richard Quick, too. In "From the Pit," COS member Michael Rose out and said that "Tani regards LaVey as a know-nothing." True. Everyone KNEW this. But we didn't have an org for them to "join." We had no intention of having one. Heh, famous last words. Anyway...
We were being asked by Gilmore to write something that sort of refutes the idea of Set as Satan. But wait! Wait wait. The ToS is actually saying that Set is *SET* AND ALWAYS WAS *SET*. They are saying that the Hebrews slandered it and called it Satan. Well, Set is definitely not the origin of the word ha-satan, but ha-satan means adversary. So, the Hebrews probably DID say that against the Egyptians (just like Moslems call the United Stated "THE Great Satan"), it may be true, the Hebrews WOULD have considered Egypt their "evil" adversary (ha satan) since Egypt kicked them out. The Bible is full of one the main stories about the plagues visited upon the "evil Egyptians" (the *Seti* Dynasty) for throwing them out (THE EXODUS) - but in fact, history doesn't back up any of their story and neither do Egyptian records of the time. I heard Setians trying to explain that once on a TV show and it was a fantastic point. There never was an EXODUS! Hebrews were not the ONLY strangers ("hapiru" means stranger in the Egyptian language) thrown out at that time and the event was no big major deal at all. There were no plagues! Anyway...
So, to get back to the point of reading a book "for Gilmore," we read the Te Velda book and wrote what we knew about two things on Set, NONE OF WHICH are related to EGYPT or anything modern, btw!! We sell the article. Keep in mind, at the time of writing, the total slanders, horrible things, were clearly in our minds. We put in what TeVelda said, too, which indicates that Set never was mistaken for Satan, that is, Set was not a devil or thing of darkness or chaos (APEP WAS). I revised that since then (quite awhile ago, I did that) and give Aquino's org address and url on it now and state what I have to say VERY clearly. It's neither pro nor con. For one, our article was not about anything modern involving Set or modern Setians.
But aside from that, apart from that, going back to 1989 or 1990, I had to find a way to get Dark Tradition out there for people who FEEL the flame from dark side and THINK "this must be Satan." If they felt it from the LIGHT side, they might think it's Jesus Or something BRIGHT. The Flame is very real, the force in nature is also very real - but how you FEEL it is totally personal. E.g., some perceive it as wet or watery, some perceive it as like fire. And some perceive it as LIGHT, some perceive it as coming FROM Darkness, turning Light and then returning to Darkness. They are seeing more of It. Heh, perceiving it as Jesus or Satan: both would be wrong, it's not Jesus a man and it's not Satan a silly bogeyman. It's the FLAME and it's not a person, it's VERY REAL and ONLY those that have ever once felt it, would KNOW what it is. NO use just talking about it to those that never felt it; it would just be ANOTHER dogma - and those that tend to make atheistic dogma out of OUR STUFF never felt the flame or they'd heh, NO LONGER BE atheists; that's one thing for sure. Guaranteed. The flame heh, it SMACKS you whooosh so damned hard there is NO mistaking it. It is hard to explain, but I HAD to do this. HAD to - call it a "calling." Don't know if you'll understand how ANATHEMA to my nature doing such a thing was, involving myself with people that did not ALREADY have this FULL knowledge with flame FULLY burning. Having to sit down and try to figure out a way to explain this in a very concrete (like talking) form. It was a CHORE. I always avoided people that lacked it or had it smothered my whole life. And when associating with those that have it, know it, there is NO REASON to talk about it! And I never or rarely did. We hung out, did normal stuff, had fun, lots of it. Wrote stories, jammed (music) and other fun things, but no need to talk ABOUT this flame if you have it. ONCE I did talk about it and explain a few things, in 1986 to a Christian spokesperson but that was SO EASY to do, just hand them DOCTRINES explaining the flame from the LIGHT side - GOD that was EASY to do! I had to do that, at the time. But that was short work, EASY, like 1 week, some typing! But to those 99% into "satan" that I see who do NOT have it, or have it so almost gone that THEY are almost gone? To explain it to a gang of people into THE DEVIL? That's what it is, no playing with words here. MOST of them have no idea what the flame is, they NEVER FELT IT. They are 99% abuse victims of some kind, or have some stupid emotional gripe against "organized religion" and bah blah freaking BLAHHH. Shit, the flame is not AGAINST anything; it's not a gripe or a whine or a protest. The flame IS the flame! Their spark is almost GONE and they are beclouded and obscured by past shit, or family shit, rage, hate, self-loathing, all glued into a ball of unconscious garbage they don't even know they FEEL. I have to explain this CLEARLY to people that don't even KNOW they ARE feeling something, let along what it is they are feeling? UGH!! I don't even know how to TALK to people like that - heh, I had to learn how. Plus, the work involved? Heh. In other words, write it NOT for Hindus or Buddhists or Taoists or Mythos fans or Light siders - but write it FOR SATANISTS using language that most occultniks would recognize, such as Kaballa words and such, or Hermetic words. Explain it for THEM in a very very hard line PURE form and in SUCH a way that it's not mahayana (slow path) but FAST, like it BANGS into their souls/limbic brains/bodies and gets THRU to them. But how? Satanists are not in one place. How am I supposed to get this information to them when they are all over the place? I did NOT give the doctrines to the COS. The COS did not have these doctrines. I found a STORE. I sold them from a store INDEPENDENTLY from all public satanic organizations but you best believe that satanic organizations came out of the woodwork when they saw them and read them. Every single one out there, real tiny ones even (public satanic orgs), wanted to PRINT our stuff in their newsletters, they asked for articles; every single one of them. Every single contact that was a member of the COS, e.g. Michael Rose, proved to be arrogant in ignorance, know nothings, and of course, they couldn't just ASK for an article, or ORDER an article, they had to write me some shit trying to show me how clever they were, while being negative about everything in life. Classic mark of the COS member, I came to RECOGNIZE that very easily. So Michael Rose got handed a fist back from me and Casey and he wrote of it in his magazine "From the Pit" citing that "Tani thinks Anton knows nothing." No, Tani KNOWS that Anton knew nothing. KNOWS. Not thinks. But unless Abyss directed them or forwarded their queries, and we gave orgs with magazines some answer (which was also RARE), they had NO IDEA how to contact "Tani" or "Phil" - no last names appeared, no contact point, no org address. !!! Nothing! Abyss (the store) had to forward their mails to us - which went unanswered for the most part for good reasons.
Tod, who worked in Abyss (the store) - he was a NON-CoS satanist (regarded the CoS as nothingness, or brain dead morons), made Satanas Babalon Press and printed these articles. Someone had to contact me since they were getting orders through the roof. They sold our stuff for SIX YEARS and, while no one knew WHO we were (well, except Tod and the store, of course, they had to pay me for articles), and no last names or contact was ever on any of the Doctrines we sold, we were definitely known as NON COS and even ANTI COS real deal Satanists with some real information; information that Tod named "THE DARK DOCTRINES." Proof of that is in Michael Rose's article in his From the Pit. What does he write about? Bullshit. Thousands of copies of stuff sold and it wasn't even FINISHED, it wasn't even pretty to look at, but it was 100% readable. Tod published it and kept publishing revisions because it sold like hotcakes. I even told him it was not done, and it looked very sloppy, but NO ONE CARED. They didn't care how it LOOKED - they cared about the information on the inside, which was clearly visible to read. Now, that's the tradition too: you package gold in a shitty package. Why not when so much SHIT is packaged in fancy "golden" packages? So Tod said to leave it that way, sloppy. Well, I didn't have a computer either, so leaving it that way was very easy! Car accident and progressive arm pain halted my ability to produce large quantities of articles. I had to be content with ADS that every single public satanic magazine now put in their magazines in every single issue. And by that I mean, orgs that were ENEMIES WITH EACH OTHER did this and no one ever pulled the "exclusive shit" with me. None of them ever dared to say "Well, if THEY publish your articles, we won't." NONE did that!
As the years passed - Gilmore not only published the Roots of Satanism 1 and 2 articles and EVERY OTHER SINGLE THING that we ever gave him, like clockwork, in every single issue of their official magazine - still, none of that was DDocs which I told him NOT to publish in his magazine. What I gave him is what I'd call low leveled obvious herd bullshit designed to MAKE people think outside their silly little boxes; anyone can go read it, it's published, to verify this. LaVey's stuff? It was nothing but "clever Jewish thinking" diatribes specifically against what Jews call the Goyim, or Goyische Culture. Nothing was satanic about it - it was obvious street-savvy stuff tailor written for repressed WASPS. What I gave them was trite nothingness compared to the Dark Doctrines, but THEY thought it was phenomenal and Gilmore used to take my advice on every SINGLE book I recommended reading to learn more about REAL LIFE. This was something LaVey NEVER did himself - he was ignorant about biological reality or economic reality. You see, I used to refer to the COS, to Gilmore, as "that club." "Clubbies. Know nothings." They were into film and noir and other irrelevant shit. Noir is only noir to a person that lived his life in a safe closet. You know, gangster shit, whore shit - or subjective "nuance" supposed to "do" something due to camera angles (blah, whatever) and whatever other YAWN that excited these cloistered white breads. Did they ever KNOW gangsters or whores? I mean, GO READ IT YOURSELF - anyone with eyes that's street savvy would agree with what I just said about what they were always into, and it's not a put down. They should be HAPPY they never really were involved in ANYTHING like that and never had to live in an inner city. NONE of that is satanic except by CHRISTIAN definition. Absolutely. To me a hooker is a proletariat and her job should be legalized. To me a gangster is a small time capitalist (compared to BIG time gangsters in Enron etc. and BIG time gangsters leading governments) Anyway....
HOW I went about contacting orgs and getting OUR STUFF out there. I'll stick to the bigger orgs with bigger readerships that at least wrote rational stuff, even IF it was trite:
1. Around 1990 or so and also later than that, I found 3 PUBLIC satanic organizations that had some members (all way under or just under 200 each) and one that wasn't satanic, but LIKED our stuff. (TOS was not public and I wasn't sure it was satanic. As said before, it was just not possible to even peek at anything they had and they tended to print ONLY stuff by their own members for their own members.) Of course, these public orgs, like Embassy of Satan, were at odds with the COS and COS with them, OF COURSE (what's new?) Of note, none of these orgs, even if at odds with each other, bothered with each other much aside from the occasional slanders!! NOTABLE!! COS gave similar "proof" against these orgs, but when asked these orgs' leaders, they EXPLAINED themselves and had their own proofs, and so what COS said went ignored. People need to know that it was the COS that threw the first 100 freaking stones every time, throughout their history, too. Not just at me. At EVERYONE. Heh, e.g., when one person's CoS husband got booted from the COS by Anton himself, the COS members that had presumably been her friends TRASHED her. Heh. Of course, her husband and she ran into the TOS (the only other bigger org out there at the time) and trashed the COS speaking, for once in their lives, the truth! HA! I doubt that the TOSsers were interested in that from what little I saw of it reposted online. I doubt that the TOS is interested in blah blah blah from my experience with James Foster - DEAD SERIOUS occult adept! I doubt that most TOS members give a shit what the COSsers have to say, or what former COS members that run to them have to say. It's nothingness. Everyone in the TOS already KNOWS that COSsers are sycophantic lackies.
2. Anyway I contacted these satanic orgs. As I said, NONE of them ever pulled that shit with me where they say, "well, you get published by our enemy and you have to choose, us or them." NONE ever did that to me. They LIKED our stuff way way too much and every single issue of their magazines had OUR STUFF in it - every single issue! That includes Black Flame, official COS magazine; and Trident, official Embassy of Satan magazine that even put my photo in their MONTHLY issues, the Heretic, the official OLHP magazine; Ordu Tempi Baphemetis who I asked to NOT put our photos in (they wanted to). Trident had a BIG readership because it was around way longer than Black Flame was and you got one issue per MONTH. I got a LOT of orders for stuff when they were running our ad. People would say where they saw the ad. Orders from all over the world came from Trident readers, too.
3. I was HANDED titles, first in Embassy of Satan: Priestess, lifetime member (there is no other higher title in that org), my photo was in every issue of Trident from then on; Priestess of the OLHP (no other higher title in that either). And Magistra in the COS (2nd to High Priest title in that, same title Gilmore and Barton had at that time, around 1997 I think, or 1996? I don't even remember, the year XXX whatever that is). Order Templi Baphemetis had no titles and is sort of OTO - but they also printed our ad and our stuff. ALL these orgs handed me BIG TITLES and pushed our articles. Yet I never paid a cent to any of them or joined them. They handed me memberships and titles on their own. I never sold a thing I wrote using any of these titles. Bottom line: that speaks for itself. Copyrighted sold material: NO TITLES. In fact, it is the OLHP founder that is SPEAKING FOR the Dark Doctrines in "Lucifer Rising" (the book). I wanted NO personality cult shit surrounding us and told him HE could speak the DDocs; I asked him, when he told me about this project, not to have the interviewer or book writer bother me or Phil. With the OLHP guy, due to something he did with another person and his kid, I started a shit fight so he'd get so mad at me he'd go away and leave. Well, it worked. That got taken over by another guy right away who turned it into some Nazi thing. So that was that. I think it's nothing now, maybe 3 people? Nazis, the org has a new name, too.
4. Embassy of Satan dubbed me Aunty Tanya and loved our stuff. OLHP tried to make a BIG THING out of me when I asked them NOT to. Due to seeing the GARBAGE that 99% of Satanism was filled with, Embassy went underground and well, no one knows what happened to them and they stopped printing Trident around the time Barton took the COS from Karla after LaVey died or sometime around then, but I have a lifetime membership in it. The founder of that still has a store and takes students.
Now - the Embassy of Satan I considered quite a positive organization - the founder of it, Jay Solomon, really KNEW stuff at least with Western occultism and some eastern. He regarded my stuff as a GOLDMINE and said it in his issue. OLHP was a Dark Doctrine org, FOUNDED on MY STUFF!! until Bolton quit (single man raising a kid, all that plus the aforementioned stuff) and the Nazi took it and changed its name and direction. COS? They handed me a title out of the blue after all the OPENLY NEGATIVE stuff I had said, truthful stuff, NOT personal shit, but doctrinal stuff. Even the stuff from me that they were PRINTING in their own magazine was like a "challenge to the MORONS in *their own club* to THINK for a change." It's in print to be read. One member of the COS with a ranking title remembers their treating "Jantsang and the Docs" like "oh, there is Anton and then maybe Gilmore (!!) and then there is Jantsang, you MUST read her stuff. blah blah." It was laid on so thick that this person was afraid to contact me at first due to his/her lousy experiences with the rest of the COS "hierarchy." Gilmore may have edited in something to namedrop Anton in a few articles, or stick in "Dr." where it wasn't there before, he published of ours, maybe not, especially since others were also publishing our stuff, don't remember. Phil wrote a letter to Barton trashing her complete ignorance and her own inquisitorial Christian-type zeal to "punish Wiccans" in her newly re-established Cloven Hoof (also mostly filled with boring nothingness). She was CONCERNED about Wicca? Why? - the gist seemed to be over the direction of the pentacle - like who cares? - and her real whine was that Llewellyn Books wouldn't publish her stuff. They DID publish Aquino's stuff!). After the scathing letter Phil wrote Barton, immediately after (provable), LaVey handed Phil an honorary Mag title. Phil was also NEVER a member of the COS. Who the hell knows why, maybe Anton liked reading Phil trashing Barton? Maybe he understood what Phil said and objectively agreed with it? Who knows. NEXT Hr.Vad put the Dark Doctrines up on a website, www.apodion.com/vad/ and he got handed a Priest title and a letter from LaVey - and given a Grotto to run, and then, around 1996 or so, all this talk about the DDocs being the foundation of real satanism started in full, laid on thick BY THEM, by the COS's own high ups. (Ole Wolf, formerly of the COS*, has his main gripe over that - well, I never said it was the foundation of THEIR Org - and if Ole asked me well? - I did tell him that, more or less, in my own way. He was just way way too zealous for my tastes, so no, I never told him that I agreed outright, since it would have been detrimental to MY goals). OH YEAH, the DDocs is the foundation of the DARKNESS stuff - specifically THE INNER FLAME as perceived FROM the Dark Side, that's for sure. I never held that information back - that's up front. But Satan? Well, go look it up in Webster's Dictionary. Consider that the 3 monotheisms, Judaism first as a negative thing and then a negative name, next Christianity, took it up and they both virtually OWN the word, and then Islam continued with the Biblical word satan and they, these three big monotheisms, defacto "own the copyrights" to it. *Ole Wolf and Amina (Corax) Lapp, both formerly of the COS and in Hr.Vad's former COS grotto, went off to form their own Satansk Forum in Denmark. An interesting and on point question is actually asked by COSsers and their allies that flame them: Why didn't he go form his own org long ago? You see, Ole did realize or conclude that the COS was nothing but poisonous shit way back before LaVey died if I remember correctly (he was in the USA at the time), and he concluded that the DDocs were the only real thing in there, which was why he even joined the COS. But why join the COS if he likes the DDocs, which our ours? He knew they were our articles. Long before I got online and did what I did, this was all said. He outright said that to me at the time I had the Mag title, heh. I agreed with his perception, but nothing more. WHY didn't he, then and there, go off and form his own organization? Or QUIT the COS since he knew that most of my gang were either not COS members or outright hostile to it (unless he forgot that?) That is a good question. I never said a word to him for or against doing that, not a word. I'm not in the habit of telling anyone what to do, nor do I give a SHIT what they do so long as they don't drag me into their shit if it's emotional. He apparently didn't act on his own until I got online, trashed the COS from the inside, and the whole rest. Was he waiting for a cue from me? If so, then that's what people see about him when they call him "poodles." I didn't tell him what to do when he FIRST perceived that the entire COS was total poison and shit, and I didn't tell him what to do at any OTHER time - despite what his emotional perception of things is! Facts to be considered: he got RIPPED OFF by the COS and deceived by them while he worked for them translating articles and did other things for no pay; but nothing stopped him from leaving then and there when he thought they were SHIT. He of all people KNEW that we were the owners and writers of the DDocs - NOT THE COS! So? Despite his perception, he went on to do work for the COS. Why? Me? Well, I got my stuff made available to the public by the COS and I never did a thing for them or gave them a cent. Well? I had a reason to shut up: the COS was advertising OUR STUFF and my purpose was to get our stuff OUT THERE. That was my ONLY purpose and anyone with an IQ of 80 can see that! But what kept Ole from just quitting it and going off on his own with the DDocs, or making his own org at that time? He did far from that. He behaved like a loyal COS member, at least that is what I SAW - and what I SAW is the only thing that concerns ME. I don't care what a person says. I see what they DO. I did not, at any time, owe him the WHOLE truth, even if I did tell him the truth. It was plainly none of his goddamned business. I never made myself his lord or master. It's too bad if he saw me that way and waited for a cue. I'm not responsible for my brother, nor am I his keeper. Ole Wolf is not my brother. He was not a close friend up close or personal. He was a stranger into the DDocs and,. even with that, he was what appeared to me to be kind of a zealot looking around and spending money on trying to find "scientific proof" that the DDocs were real. Heh, anyone who FEELS the flame whooshing through them doesn't need science to prove it's real. My point. I could care less about such people. Above all, if he had read a thing I wrote, even stuff he put on his own org's website, he'd KNOW what I felt toward people just like himself. I said it up front and brutal. Another thing to consider. Soviet archives get opened - BAM - just like that and it's a free for all to get them. Phil and I had our own reasons for wanting to find certain things and write about it. This had NOTHING to do with the stupid satanism afoot. It was our business, our concern and no one else's. We put up a website and well, WHY ON EARTH were some COS members going there to read any of it? Good question. They ended up making their own half-brained conclusions about us at the time and after but why did they even GO there and read anything? It wasn't for them. It wasn't about them. It wasn't about satanism. It was frankly none of their business. Sure I talked about it - I generally do talk about things I am INTERESTED in - but Ole and some other COS people well, like the types they are, took it upon themselves to "get into it" too. Disgusting. I despise people like that. I also say that up front and brutal in articles that have been on Hr.Vad's website for years. It's like they are trying to "get into" my personal garden. I see them as empty, boring people with nothing of their own to "get into." Of course I'd get into the archives: my god damned family came from there and prior to open archives, nothing but bullshit from pro or anti Soviet sources existed. I wanted to KNOW. And that is my business - not anyone else's. Somehow, everyone got "wind" of what "THE MAG" was into lately. What, from making a comment in some friendly letters? Sheesh. Do they imagine that they are the only people I knew or partied with? Far from it. I NEVER partied with satanic org people from these orgs. Never. I said that too, up front and brutal, in articles on Hr.Vad's website years ago. Anyway....
We, the Dark Doctrines, do NOT represent satanism as THEY define it. We represent the DARK TRADITION - Sat and Tan! There is a DIFFERENCE. A BIG one. And if Set represents this Flame, then, - Set is SAT! Ok: ST. Just "ST." No vowels in Egyptian. There are lots of vowels in the Vedic languages. SAT. But according to the Three Monotheisms that invented and own the word, Satan represents the negation of this flame, the ANTI flame. What do these idiots think ANTI CHRIST means? Christos is Logos - Logos is Vajra - Vajra is FLAME. It's that "thing" that whooshes up in people (in some; some have it blocked) that well, INSPIRES at times to the point of daimonic thinking (inventions, technology, etc, creativity even in arts/music, etc. - tho it is also the kundalini flowing, normally most of the time). Perceived from the dark side, it is BLACK flame! This is not some name invented by Aquino or Gilmore. It's not just two words for some new atheistic dogma either. It's EASTERN and it's recognizable. It's real. Feel it once and good bye atheism. WE DEFINE atheism as non-THEISM. In OUR meaning, DEISM is atheism. OUR definition is strict and theologically correct. Some people that become Born Again Christians do this because they REALLY FELT the flame, but they PERCEIVED IT as extremely bright. No doubt about it, they FELT it and it hit them like a sledge hammer. So they think "oh, bright, something definitely out of the ordinary, like supernatural maybe, could that be Jesus?" In the USA, they WOULD think that.
Due to Hr.Vad having that up on a website at that time (let me be more specific, he had polemic answers to online idiots on his website, which amounted to commentary on the actual Dark Doctrine articles) and due to COS pushing it and that stupid title they handed me and Phil, the COS, imo, lured a lot of serious people into their org that often wrote me about the MISconception this caused and said that "the COS is a bunch of stupid shit, the only good thing in it is the DDocs" and they asked me why I had anything to do with them. I replied that I DID NOT have anything to do with them - I was not a member and would NEVER join such a thing. MANY of them drifted out of the COS, most never bothered to "write an official letter" since they considered it a joke. They DID ask me if I had an org. I did not and had no plans to make one. They all said I SHOULD. Yeah, heh, HOW? Lots of trouble. (Famous last words...)
This, ALL of this, is quite well known by people OFFLINE and needs to be RE-stated to anyone who wants to know. Apparently people rely on online misinformation. VERY FEW people are online and I asked over 1000 people to date, NONE of them even KNOW what "usenet" or "Newsgroups" is. They know WEBSITES and web searches. They know what email-groups are (egroups). Usenet? Go on sci.anthropology and tell me how many articles on anthropology there are compared to SHIT that's on there, including flame wars. I was shocked. B told me that usenet is nothing. I, being new to computers, didn't believe it. So I went around taking a "poll" - very easily done. Stand outside a supermarket and ask people as they come out. Go into a business and ask. ONE PERSON knows what "newsgroups" are and he said "I stay off them, they are shit, they are bad news, they are trouble." This guy works for an ISP so yeah, he knows what they are. Back to subject...
The COS is the ONLY organization out of all of these that tried to wage a war against me and when their members were not doing it, their well-known allies were doing it with information provided them directly by Gilmore (since I judged him The Liar from day 2, I gave him a lot of FALSE information, so I know where their "attack info" is coming from!) - they did this relentlessly. ONE DAY after 9/11, the Subject on alt.satanism was TANI. Can we REdefine obsessed? The only thing that gives flameless people a minute of pleasure is to be able to STOMP on someone or something. Or as Aquino put it to me once, very in-culture actually: "They try to throw TAR on the MIRROR that reflects back their own selves!" This kept up for a long time when we all know that Gilmore could have simply issues another "Waffen SS obey me" email to them all and told them to STOP. This CAUSED ME to get off my lazy ass and come out with some scathing statements about them and their leader: Unfortunate Necessary Statements is a whole section now on the website http://satanicreds.says.it or "Bad Stuff" on the top Menu. NOT the other way around! They WISH I gave a shit about their silly titles. They can NOT get around the fact that on copyrighted sold material NO titles exist. Nor can they get around the letter Barton wrote me where she ADMITS she knows I never ever used the COS as my identity!
THIS is the sequence of events and this needs to be known. Now - there is more.
I was SERIOUSLY trashing them as individuals before and I REFUSED to flame their "enemies." But here is the important part: I was doing this AS A MAGISTRA, exposing them, posting their "private" garbage NONE OF WHICH was faked (they can't say the same for the shit they try to post and claim is mine) and heh, I made sure to use the title in my signature whenever I did that. NOW I was using their title - "Magistra"!
As to the stuff now? "Unfortunate Necessary Statements" or "Bad Stuff?" Had they left me ALONE - this would not have happened at all since I'm lazy and not inspired to TRASH something like that unless I absolutely HAVE to. They knocked on my door for over two years. If they THINK they can knock on my door for over 25 years, as they did to the Temple of Set, they are MISTAKEN. There was nothing about the COS on the SR website until they kept going at it over 1 year. Above all, they persisted in BLAMING ME for actions done by Ole Wolf who REALLY DOES feel ripped off and lied to, and he was, as a matter of real fact. Now, keep in mind that I also could SEE Ole Wolf DOing these things FOR the COS, very loyal. He not only PAID 100 bucks to join the COS, PAID grotto dues, PAID to set up some kind of business to sell items for them or something like that (I don't have details on that part, but Vad stalled and didn't want to do it, or something like THAT! That was in their COS grotto that this happened), but Ole PAID to set up an s-list egroup for their members only (which was equally shit, as bad as alt.satanism according to Kaiden, B and others that witnessed it, people I have implicit trust in judging such things), but he worked HOURS translating a lot of their material into Danish! FOR NO PAY he did this. But they blame ME for what Ole did? Ole said something that was considered pro terrorist during 9/11. They BLAMED ME for his opinion! That proves one thing for sure: the COSsers and their lackeys have no CONCEPTION of what individual thought is. Finally I got a little "flame war" going, which I don't personally give two shits about (except perhaps homeland security who might be watching, since Ole Wolf is ANTI USA and cheered bin Laden on 9/11!) - The spaniel herdlings of the COS blamed me for THAT, as I said - effectively proving that they truly DO NOT BELIEVE in individual minds capable of thinking and speaking; ego projection to the max, of course. They speak what Gilmore THINKS into their brains to speak; or else it's Anton said, Anton felt, Anton thought - as if anyone gives a shit about it). But now everyone KNOWS that Ole Wolf is NOT A SR MEMBER and has NOT BEEN ONE from the day I got online and opened it up for e-chatters in the org, online. All the while they KEPT connecting him to SR and he and that woman Amina weren't even in it. Why did they do this? Because he was listed as a founder because he made a sigil, tho we never used it.
WE ARE the Dark Tradition organization. Hands down. Why were they out of it so fast? Because we are NOT the COS, and we don't run things as COS did and our egroup, which I opened up by popular demand of friendly comrades, is NOT his s-list, and contrary to what he emotionally wants to believe, if he didn't leave when I refused to comment or pay attention, Prole would have kicked him out because he was 100 times more familiar with the behavior of these people than I was from having seen it for himself in the s-list. 1. you do NOT come to me over problems with another comrade (they did this, and pestered the hell out of me). 2. you do NOT call a comrade a klippoth for disagreeing with your Danish PRO welfare stance, they need to learn the meaning of "materially SELF-serving while being beneficial to all - emphasis equally on BOTH," we are NOT bleeding heart, self-sacrificing liberals, boo hooing for the "woes of the world," we are *Satanic* Reds, clearly, not any OTHER KIND of Reds. 3. It's clear in the 9 statements, which we advocate in the SAME 9 statements that he should have read more carefully before LEAPING. 4. you do NOT expect me to be like Schlesinger and PATROL other people's websites and monitor what they do, despite the confusing fact, unknown to them, that Brian Nalls ASKED ME, DICTATED TO ME messages for the council since HE DID patrol organizations; he claimed something was wrong with his computer, he dictated the email and I merely typed it). That and a few other things that got them right OUT of SR very VERY fast. Aside from that, which is nothingness to me save for copyright issues and people who 1. wouldn't even KNOW each other if not for the Dark Doctrines and 2. wouldn't even have an org SAVE FOR the Dark Doctrines, which they now either denigrate or heh, try to dismember my life? OH, heh, (SARCASM COMING) I know all that stuff cause of my fucking 3 Ph.D.'s in theology, so much that THEOLOGY PROFESSORS have had to asked me to explain some fine points (they did, and I did explain it). Must be those 3 PH.D's? Sure right. I never claimed to have that. They neglect to fathom that the Dark Tradition did NOT come from some stupid Western college of HIRED education or from people that knew it in any abstract way. Ole Wolf was led into satanism BY the Dark Tradition - as PRESENTED BY ME primarily (the DDocs articles). He can deny what he felt all he likes. Heh - or he can stop "believing in" the FLAME since that would challenge his new-found atheism. Who cares? If he ever FELT the flame, he'd know what it was. Apparently he never felt it. I have done exactly what I said I have done in my LIFE, and it's very easily provable (some of it's PUBLISHED) and no amount of little Ole Wolf's cloistered whining can undo it. Can I prove it? Well hell, the shit's PUBLISHED exactly as I said, IN FICTION STORY FORM. It's ALL OVER the damned place and I DO LIST the authors who also wrote dark stuff into stories in my Hermetic thing. The Esoteric Order of Dagon Swan Point Lodge and the Nyarlathotep Lodge are both led by SR members, one of whom knew me YEARS before anyone online or Ole ever heard of me or the DDocs. They are Dark Doctrine MYTHOS organizations. These orgs were around for years. They wrote that stuff WAY WAY back and sure, I knew them, STILL KNOW the ones who are STILL ALIVE whether they are in lodges or orgs or not. I have letters from them when they were trying to figure out which mythos thing fit in with which doctrine thing in the various versions of doctrines they knew on their own. Heh the fact is, that "mythos" has inspired and "GOTTEN TO" a few MILLION people, forget about satanic shit. That also DOES THE SAME THING to people with the flame as the pure doctrine does. It CALLS them! OF COURSE cults formed around that stuff later on. OF COURSE. Some are STILL OUT THERE. They use mythos, but they are SERIOUSLY LHP. Why not use mythos? It's as LEGIT as any other mythology used to define this stuff! :) That's exactly what WE DID back in the 60's 70's. DUH. Doubting that is like doubting that I'm writing this email. Carter's SSS was a pure joke, totally intended as a typical mythos spoof. But Chojnicki well, he TRIED and failed to drag that venture INTO the COS - Aquino has pieces of that (hilarious as hell). Chojnicki was one of the friendliest people, open, and LEGIT I met, creative too, but didn't have much TIME to write stuff out as stories. 4 years of college, he also was in the army. He quickly learned that "public satanic realm" was the WRONG PLACE to bring this since NONE of us ever would have done that and never did.
The Doctrines, as written for anyone interested in putting "satan" into a search engine, use STANDARD Tradition words from legit and known traditions, NOT mythos names from a newly created mythology. Back on point - I view Ole as just another COS type doing what they do. And yes, he threw a stone but (go figure) doesn't even realize he did that. Intolerance is not measurable, like cholesterol. The chief people in whose hearts the SR was made, found him to be INTOLERABLE, not just intolerant. End of story. It doesn't matter how 1 million other people find him. SR is our org. He's out and he has been out since the group announced itself publicly and made an egroup on demand for those in it to chat. None of us care about the "appearance" of satanism in the public. That's a monumental act of wheel spinning since the word BELONGS to the Three Monotheisms, hands down - THEY define it. WE have and always have represented SAT Being and TAN Becoming. Anyone NOT realizing that is just stupid. From 1989, page three of the Package of Doctrines, "we NEVER called It satan." The Traditions that the Dark Doctrines come from are NOT the Three Monotheisms, despite my resorting to use of Kaballistic words to explain these to people into western occultism. We never considered our Dark Lord of Transcendent Awareness, or BEING, to be evil. Not ever. We are not in "opposition" to anything, nor do we notice the "herd" or care to comment on what THEY do. It's not our concern. Period.
The COS threw the first 100 stones. Of course, par for the course, they'll insist that's not true (oh, it's not? Apparently they don't know that they are PROVOKING shit with someone, just as Ole doesn't KNOW he was provoking shit from me when insisting that I "change the past." No, I sort of LIED to him in the past by NEGLECTING to be up front or open with him about a great many things. And yes, others KNEW this and kept their mouths shut. After all, he might have opened his BIG mouth and gone and said shit to the COS who were RUNNING OUR AD. Bottom line.) Only then, after repeated stone throwing, did I put up "unfortunate necessary statements." There is no resentment involved, except perhaps on their side, since we ARE the Dark Tradition organization. We are IT. Consider that they used to CLAIM TO BE the home of the DDocs (heh, Gilmore bragged that THEY were the first to publish our stuff (His article was called "A Word for the Misdirected," which I have copy of). The FACT is, they did NOT publish that stuff in their magazine or anywhere else!, I never gave it to them to publish! (Roots articles are NOT Dark Tradition) - all they had to show were the Hr.Vad website things, which were hardly the Dark Tradition! But yes, they did try to show SENIORITY regarding "who got a chance to promote these Doctrines first." I find that rather amusing - meaning they can't claim I conned them!! Just as there is NOW on Ole's part, some kind of bullshit! Ole wants to use OUR STUFF while disparaging OUR ORG? OR ME PERSONALLY, as if I have any reason to lie about a fucking thing I ever did, which is NO ONE's BUSINESS in the first place?? Used to be NO ONE KNEW A THING about the "author" of these Doctrines. Who portrayed "Ole and Tani as great friend?" Odal? Sorry to inform, Ole never even MET me. He never was a "good friend." He was a stranger doing me HUGE $$$$ FAVORS, however. It was GOOD that way when my personal business was not known to anyone. Using ahem, MY STUFF let's be legally specific here: MY STUFF. Fine, stop using our stuff. It IS copyrighted. Note that they apparently can't exist as an org without our stuff! :)
The COS wants to try hard to squirm around the facts as they exist - by claiming the title was just a con. Con? Con me out of what? Hey, dudes, I conned them out of a HEAP of free publicity and freebies. They are the ones that got conned: I USED THEM to push MY STUFF. Um, I used Embassy of Satan to push my stuff even before that. Um, I used OLHP to push my stuff before that, too. Hey, they got more sales in readership doing that. Serving ME and serving themselves, too? Anyone with eyes and an IQ of 80 could see that. If you want to look at it that way, in terms of cons? Then I conned them. But wait, conned them out of what? Fact is, I had a very spiritual agenda, solely spiritual (for lack of any other name I can come up with - it was a VOID DARKNESS agenda), but the problem was I knew I'd be dealing with fucked up, half broken atheists having a hissy fit over their own silly culture. None of them can even FATHOM what a "spiritual HAVE TO DO IT" thing could be, or what it would be like. They're all atheists, by that I mean DEAD. These are people with utterly broken egos; they are the PITS and can only understand any paradigm in terms of an ABUSIVE relationship. This is shown time and time again with them in how they interpret every single thing. Ok, I ABUSED the CoS. Poor Anton. As a result of repetitive stone throwing, I simply put up Barton's letters to me. Heh, the woman is NOT a con artist by any stretch of the imagination. She's hopelessly in love, like a teenaged girl, with a man she thinks is the "most evil man in the world" - i.e., devil - that's obvious! Anton is evil? Really? News to me. Oh, I guess bin Laden is not evil. NEITHER of them are evil. She was very friendly, nothing conning about it. And so forth. If anything, she said she FELT used by what I did. Well, too bad. Anton constantly preached about using the herd as if that was a great satanic thing to do.... Heh. They try to squirm out of things - they provoke ME with it. Apparently, they have stopped. But after their actual members stopped, their lackeys kept on with it, or their anonymous trolls kept it up, relentlessly, obsessively (like the way they persuaded B and the kids to go on a name calling stint and I did some of it too in a few articles for Hr.Vad, oh yeah. I thought it was funny, at any rate. STILL DO. YO MAMMA and etc... (Yo momma's a bitch ass whore, and all that.)
The COS has still not let up with this. Consider that the COS waged an over 25 year organization WAR against Aquino, personally and organizational. As I said, the COS was the most negative org out there with the worst garbage in it. They waged a similar war against Embassy of Satan, and tried hard, but online people don't KNOW about that, but Jay has a mouth of his own AND PROOF to show otherwise and he wasn't one to shut up or keep it private! He knew Anton too, he knew Anton's first wife. He sat across from Anton quite a few times back then and knows one thing: Anton never gave a shit about ANYTHING except Anton and his own image as shown to the herd the herd the herd (the herd is all that Anton ever wrote about or cared about, paying far too much attention to nothingness. Anton was in love with the herd, especially the super WASP blonde herd, that outright rejected him during his formative years! Bingo.) Jay and his wife did not like Diane LaVey, thought she was gutter trash. They liked the first wife, don't remember her name. Jay also had rebuttals against Gilmore's garbage and yes, Gilmore paid Jay a visit once too. All that.
I regarded Embassy of Satan as POSITIVE, although also a bit far out in one of their things about UFO's; that made money and at least it was progressive, space-age sort of. OLHP was positive at first until they took the Doctrines and tried to make atheist dogma out of them along with some personality cult shit. COS I regarded and always regarded as POISON and for very very obvious reasons if anyone has EYES to look at it. The critics you may run into (that imagine I'm angry about the loss of some honorary title that I never even used) don't seem to realize that I was TRASHING COS members and authorities WHEN I HAD THE TITLE, a lot worse than I ever did when they tried to announce that the title was gone - as if that meant something! The order of "what happened" here is that WHEN I HAD the title, I trashed them WORSE and it was also the ONLY time I USED the title - to sign posts trashing them with it! Why was the title NEVER ONCE used on anything I seriously wrote or sold? Because honestly and seriously the title was shit to me. There is published proof of that. They can't get around that FACT. If it was less than poison it was all nothing stuff regarding the irrelevant Hollywood bilge. Or when it was BOO werewolves, vampires and Addam's Family foolishness. They set about on a Fascist course, as documented by Lucifer Rising - let them deny that? LMAO. You gotta be kidding. The pages of their own official magazine reek with it and Nazi articles and symbols. Their claim to use Nietzsche is generally despised by the real Nietzsche society, their claim to use Rand is a joke since Anton was hardly a self-serving capitalist and the Randians have their own society. Their claim to use London is a joke. One high school drop out using these three authors and his own street savvy points of view against goyische culture, and then claiming it is "satanism" does not make it satanism in any way, shape or form. The Temple of Set is SETIAN. SR is SAT AND TAN. The "Church of Satan" is neither a church nor about satan. It's a joke. The Sinistra Vivendi and ONA are Nazi organizations with about 3 people in them and some of them using the word SAT, which they'd never have heard of save for OUR stuff, is a joke and a misuse. Nazism is like Afrocentrism - one big group wannabe and pathetic. Satanism is what the Three Monotheisms that invented the word and thus own the word, SAY it is.
ALL of this mundane all-too-human shit is IRRELEVANT to a person that sincerely FEELS that flame and wants to know WHAT IT IS. The Dark Doctrines are the ONLY doctrines that explain it in every way possible, what it is, how it works, everything. The COS used to be able to announce and claim that THEY had the Dark Doctrines! OH, they did, did they? Um, heh - I don't think so. When Egan used (and distorted) stuff from the Doctrines they pitched a fit because it was GETTING PEOPLE IN the FCoS. I wish to hell I saved emails from the Gilmores - at the time I had no idea HOW to save an email. BEGGING me to do something, whining, using every means to get me to "go after Egan." Go after him? How? Were they asking me to kill the man? WERE THEY PAYING ME to do anything else, like repudiate him online? Heh, I did nothing until way way later, when Egan butted into SR over the Les Masters issue. Egan is a drama queen with no interested in the LHP or Flame. He's all about crotch issues. SOLELY about that. I don't care what he does, I don't care abut NAMBLA either, I'm NOT THE FBI! It's not my issue to care about. Let people go join these orgs and JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES. That's my stance. If they don't like them, GET THEIR MONEY BACK. It's solely up to them. Me? If I get a meal that's not right in a restaurant, I send it back. Some of these people are even too wimpy to do THAT. And they are PAYING for the meal. That's the story of their life. Not my concern.
WE, the SR, ARE THE DARK DOCTRINE ORG - bottom line. People who feel that, really feel it from the dark side, DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about LaVey, or Rand, or Nietzsche or Hollywood or BOO stories, or American underbelly culture, or any specific country or place in time. FAR FROM IT. They want to know what they FELT, what it IS, and more about it. And we HAVE that information in a pure form. Hindus do not. Buddhists do not. Taoists do not. I ought to know! Many of our members KNOW that.
But COS? Some stupid last-given title I never used? What some people think? That needs to be fixed and straightened out. It was "shocking," as Barton put it to me, to see me using that Magistra title for the FIRST TIME EVER, and using it while TRASHING the COS and LaVey! Yeah, I did that. They deserved it and whoever watching it, with a BRAIN present, realized it was NOT Aquino trashing them, NOT Egan trashing them. It was a MAG ON THE INSIDE trashing them, exposing them, all of them. Bottom line? I seriously, genuinely, see them as ANTI-FLAME, ANTI-LIFE and anti-LOVE, as SPIRITUAL enemies - fuck the petty org shit . They are SPRITUALLY the enemy and I mean that. I seriously mean that in the inner spiritual sense. They are like an ARMY of klippoth attack forces with a general and Anton was the first klippoth that founded an organization on his OWN self-loathing and RESENTMENT against the herd that caste him out his whole life - it had nothing to do with any "hypocrisy" he saw - anyone with a brain saw that hypocrisy; so they are DANGEROUS spiritually speaking. Even physically, in some hypothetical cases. And yes, the Columbine kids (before they killed anyone) were ON the COS's chat room, chatting with the storm troopers - just imagine how THAT went down. I (and I'm NOT the only one who clearly SEES this, almost like a vision) seriously see a road of black, sticky sludge leading to the vortex where the flame is GONE, where there is nothing bit sniping and biting going on - and they take people on that road. If there is a spark of flame left in a person that could be ENHANCED and a person that could be pulled AWAY from the NOISE of the "world" (spiritual meaning) and the inner disquiet that led them in the first place to go looking for THE DEVIL when they are from one of the 3 monotheistic religions by CULTURE and BIRTH, and if these people could be raised to a higher level, the LaVeyans managed to SQUASH that flame and create another one of themselves: a raging klippoth, an empty gaping hole. They are NOT harmless atheists saying "nothing much about anything" into Rand and Nietzsche and Hollywood Addam's family kitche, or rational atheists. That's the LIE they tell the news. I was a MAG in it, and I saw enough and heard enough COMPLAINTS in hard mail LONG before that and during that time. THAT is who was trashing them online - someone on the inside: "THE MAG." HIGH UP on the inside as the title would infer. But I am also Priestess in Embassy and was a Priestess in OLPH! And? That means what? No one makes HOOOLAH over that! Neither did I ever make a hoolah out of any of it.
Someone needs to get a clue about TACTICS. No one needs to see the spiritual end of this, which I regard as the REAL issue at hand, btw. I have no reason not to outright say it - bottom line, IF YOU FEEL THAT FLAME, all of it, not just the light part of it, but ALL of it, you will NOT be an atheist (American Atheist Society definition) - BOTTOM LINE! There is NO SUCH FORCE in physics as that Dark Force we FEEL. HA!! Yeah, a portion of it can be MEASURED, in fact, TWO portions of it today (entropy - article on that on website with formula), but neither can be fully explained. And so, ha ha, WHAT IS IT? EH? GRAVITY? I don't think so. What does that say when a Mag IN the CoS is trashing the CoS? That it's not a TOS enemy trashing the CoS, it's not Aquino doing it. It's not Egan or New COS or First COS or COS copy cat trashing them. IT'S A MAGISTRA RIGHT IN THE THICK OF IT ON THE INSIDE OF IT that is trashing it! DUH - big clue. I trashed it WHILE A MAG. Not so much after. If they had left me alone, there would have been no need for THIS little missive or anything else. They never learn! People take that one tiny org's honorary title too seriously. What about my Embassy of Satan title? No hoolah? I still have it! I do not use it. ALL of Ole's COS files were made and the documents date back to when I was a MAG IN IT - on the INSIDE. People need to use their HEADS here. Those letters/mails are DATED, no one disputes them. No one denies writing them! Phil trashing Barton is from before he was a MAG. AFTER he wrote that, Anton gave him a title! DATED! TIMING is of the essence here. Who's resentful?
I do not resent anything about the title, which anyone with an IQ of 80 would figure out. I resent them using the Dark Doctrines to lure in GOOD PEOPLE, only to squash these people's flames and bully them in their little stupid club. I couldn't see that since I had no computer, but offline I heard about it for a long time, before and after the "non-event regarding the title." When I saw my name with the title next to it on Hr.Vad's site, I told him to REMOVE IT remove the title, take off that title. Again, never has that title appeared on anything I ever wrote or sold. That SHOULD speak volumes to a person with an IQ of 80 able to figure it out. Why would I use the title ONLY WHEN I was trashing them? Figure it out - it's not hard to figure out. It was not Aquino trashing them, or you trashing them or Egan. Repeat: I was a MAG IN IT trashing them. OK? 2 plus 2 is 4. It's not hard to figure out. This is repetitive because it never seems to IMPACT with common sense. Can't people understand before and after? Faust (Ben Schultz) admits I told him to NEVER call me by that stupid title (he's a CoS member that admitted I said that to him). Ole has issues now, heh. Actually, he's prompted by Amina, a woman not capable of KNOWING right from wrong, and raising a kid? She did not know it was WRONG to sucker an innocent new person into the COS to get their money, KNOWING that the gang would trash him and bully him later on. Trying to get her to RECOGNIZE right from wrong, all she could say was "I thought it was the thing to do." JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! I have met Down's Syndromes that had a KEEN SENSE of "that's WRONG to do that." And THAT is the caliber of trash that denigrates the Dark Tradition now? She has no flame, not EVEN a sense of "It's WRONG TO DO that to someone." She obviously NEVER FELT the flame. People who do feel it keenly do NOT set about to "try to make SATAN into something PC in the eyes of fanatical Christians; nor CAN they ever claim to be atheists ever again!" LET them have their ATHEIST organization and remove ALL OUR STUFF, they don't need our stuff. They can try to denigrate my personal life to their own detriment since heh, it's easily provable. Resentful COS lackeys at heart.
The Dark Tradition is SPIRITUAL for lack of another name, it's not so much material except that it physically defines this force or flame in all ways; there are no rules to the PATH, no dogma. LHP is SOLITARY. LHP are inner directed even IF they have to do blatantly RHP things in order to GET this information out in a very modern world that is nothing like the world where LHP types originated. Nor do they tell anyone HOW to "get on" the LHP - heh, one is either on it, or they aren't!
Atheism is atheism, why call it satanism? They have NO doctrines save what they got FROM MY STUFF. Their Satanism usually amounts to the all pervasive goyische penis problems or hysterical fetishes about "I want the devil to rape me or I want be the devil and rape a woman." The DTrad wakes things up in people, undefinable and undeniable things. Call that spiritual then. SO DOES THE CTHULHU MYTHOS!!! Oh yeah, it wakes up a Call that is undefinable in SOME people. Spiritual? What else is there to call that? Otherwise these people are so petty as to concern themselves with what someone wears or eats. How PETTY can it get? Or they don't know the difference between right and wrong. Or former TOS members (a small few of them that always were pro COS types) they "always knew" that something bad was going on and they cringed for years but then they never say it, and can't prove it when Aquino asks for proof, until they are booted out of the org? Heh, I said what I had to say IN the org and signed it "THE MAG." Big difference. But Petty and unable to know right from wrong: THAT is the caliber of trash NOW wanting to use our stuff or pretending to grasp it ? NO WAY. To what end? To establish ATHEISM in Denmark or to squabble with moronic Christians instead of Walking the Solitary Path? Fuck that shit. I wasn't going to tell him that or anything else on a phone (when he was in the USA) when he was MAKING me a new computer for free, mailing me a new modem and mailing me a 17 inch $$$ type flat monitor - all for free. Sooner or later, he'll realize that. Then he can either CHOOSE to walk the solitary path or bitch and whine about it and become one MORE asshole obsessed with "Tani." Did he think that handing me gifts would "get him" something? Heh, it doesn't work that way. Not with me.
Quite simply, I do not need "other orgs" filled with people who know NOTHING AT ALL anymore to do the work of getting our information out, or print our stuff or anything else. Internet allows us to do this OURSELVES now, at this level of technology on the net, and so does a computer.
The fact is, the DDocs have helped THOUSANDS of people, people from far outside satanism who have (and still do) written to me about this. That was the goal. It has even helped people who think Buddhism or Hinduism might explain what they felt - UNDERSTAND IT BETTER. I have a Hindu teacher RIGHT NOW in the org - he has 400 students. He is now using OUR STUFF since it's way clearer than anything written by a foreigner befuddled with mystical covers and hidden meanings and heaped up with mystical lingo. He just needs, sometimes, to have the terms back-translated into lingo he's more used to (i.e., NOT Kaballistic words). Our stuff is PURE - it hits HARD. In that sense, it is DIRECT. It speaks to the FLAME if you have one. Flameless people NEED NOT use our stuff.
A BIG DEAL is made out of that stupid Mag title in the COS. People need to know that I was a PRIESTESS in these other satanic orgs a LOT LONGER than a Mag in the CoS - and LaVey handed that to us (me first, then Phil, and the TIMING is noted) as honorary for one thing: for the Dark Doctrines. Phil got his for his INFORMATION correcting Barton's idiocy. He also sent xeroxes of scientific articles with his letter. No one BUT LaVey would legally be able to remove it! He handed it to us DESPITE our anti-COS stance, DESPITE Phil's trashing Barton's idiocy; in fact, Phil trashed her and THEN got his honorary title. There is published proof for that! TIMING. He handed that to us for one thing: THE DARK DOCTRINES. And the DDocs are STILL THERE, unchanged. So that's it. That title is no different from the honorary Priesthood he handed to Marylin Manson; except that "Mag" is a lot higher a title. It's honorary; we never were members of their little club. WE still have the Dark Doctrines. I never used ANY titles from ANY orgs on anything I ever published or sold. Hr.Vad used it on his website when he was a Priest in the COS and Grotto Master (both of these were handed to him for the Dark Doctrines). These facts can not be gotten around. Logic needs to be used. Had I given a shit about the Mag title, I'd have "trashed Egan," "trashed Aquino when they started up again" and just shut up about anything else. Very very simple! Or I'd have just not said a word and lied and said that "my computer can't show me those people." Logic.
My stance on the TOS was 180 degrees changed WHILE I HAD THE MAG TITLE, due to James Foster. Don't care how "out" the man is regarding the TOS now; he knew his Setian Doctrine and SHOWED ME ENOUGH to prove to me that Gilmore and the COS gang were LIARS TO THE MAX, even about their doctrines. I immediately changed COS versus TOS to COS and TOS and it's up there to read now. That's why I kept asking Aquino to MAKE PUBLIC some of his stuff, like his book. I mean come on. Does he even realize what CONVINCING negative stuff was being said for years, not just against him as a person, but against the whole TOS and the doctrines they had? They unite, like ravening dogs in a kennel, and go after any critics of LaVey like storm troopers. They repeat the bullshit 100 times over, wasting their time and their lives on this nothingness. They did it to Aquino - and they did it to me but I have a MOUTH on me (among other things offline). But Aquino didn't say a word to rebuke it in the past - NOW he's said a few great things to rebuke them all. Jay Solomon had enough to prove Gilmore to be a measling liar, that Gilmore backed off fast.
I did NOT want that Mag title next to my name, or ever use it (or any other title handed to me by other satanic orgs) on the Dark Tradition articles I sell or write, for one very SIMPLE reason: to use it would be like saying that I accept LaVey or any of these others as a HP of something. I do consider Jay to be a Priest, that's for definite. Easily! I do not and never did consider LaVey a priest or anything of the sort, of ANYTHING. That simple. I'm the one who explained "the darkness" to them, to ALL of them. NOT the other way around. If any of these people are HPs - what am I? A GOD?
Please SAVE this email - and if anyone asks, just forward it to them. It's the truth.
An aside: this is the thing I refer to with Amina - these are her own words:
"For a while I was living with that person, and was also loyal to the #coscentral ppl, (when the COS owned it) because I was already sucked into that web of lies. #coscentral was a place where ppl would try to get innocent ppl to join the COS and to send in their personal info when they knew they would be kicked out immediately. I did this to some ppl as well, and it was awful. I did this because I thought this was what the COS wanted and others did it too. This is what the lies spun by Chaos' (a COS member) type does to a person, they make you do nasty things like that, all in the name of "us" vs. "them." Ppl were always trying to get personal info on others."
Let me state it here, she was incapable of understanding my question about right and wrong in doing such things to people who never did anything to her and who were INNOCENT of any so-called wrong-doing and not even accused of it. They were doing this to STRANGERS. Not to people who were accused (with mountains of very calmly spoken testimony) of stalking LaVey, harming the COS, molesting his daughters, and so forth (see above) - which Aquino WAS accused of - and which Aquino never once REFUTED. Perhaps A's feeling was that he was above such trash but no no no. When that trash is said in "reasonable objective form" by people with college degrees, even prestigious degrees (like Lupo, an online person), it is VERY believable - - and it was so TO ME and many others. This kind of thing was standard behavior for them, and they were doing it to STRANGERS "it was the thing to do" she said to me when I pretty much "third degreed" her in chat over it because I was freaking SHOCKED, deliberately trying to rip people off, innocent people, curious outsiders. $100 dollars is a lot of money to some people. What if that person genuinely felt the flame? Then it's WAR - real war, not bombs, not Iraq or terrorists - REAL war - SPIRITUAL WAR. Anyone that doubts heh, that I seriously feel that way about it need come on over and take a PEEK at the real file, albeit in mythos format for words, easily translated back. 100% spiritual file on all of this, on every mechanism of it. Killing the flame is WORSE than literally killing civilians in a war or genocide. It's killing the FLAME. Doctrines say, and I know - that's FOREVER. I don't need to explain it to "satanic atheists" (heh, there is no such thing).
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